Do you think God still sees me, coming out of this twilight sleep? she asks, before the band carries the song out with a powerful extended coda. Having recently moved to Nashville with Shires whose own fourth solo album, Down Fell the Doves, comes out next week the newlyweds will sequester themselves in different corners of the house to write new songs, then play them for each other. GROSS: Thats Empty Cups from Amanda Shires new album, Take It Like A Man. Thats such a great song, Amanda. On August 10, my life was savedthese are some dark days.. And her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. Well be right back after a short break. And I dont know. Then I get to the end of the recording process and try to decide what makes the best collection of songs. There were probably 2,500 people, and Im just standing there with a guitar, elevated and facing everyone. SHIRES: You want to come to the play the show tomorrow night, too? Shes also one of the founders of the group The Highwomen. Its all control.. To keep the newness from wearing off, for every start theres gonna be a stop. GROSS: Yeah. And she would dance a little bit to The Beatles and stuff and started seeing the possibility that she might go into music one day. Do you need the reasons why? They do tell you that going out and helping other people really helps you a lot. Tomorrow on FRESH AIR, well talk about the power, promise and potential harm of YouTube. I was playing a music festival, and I noticed that there was a fiddle on stage with Billy Joe. I hope you get well soon. Isbell responded, Thank you Aimee. She has a big conscience, a big heart. In a new interview, Shires who returns with her latest album Take It Like a Man in July goes deeper into her own experiences and calls on artists, especially those in Nashville, to start using the platforms theyve been given. And she came over and I showed her. For the past decade or so, Amanda Shires has sung about the dark shades of relationships lapsed communication, broken trust, fading intimacy with a devastating eye for detail. 'Mandalorian' star Pedro Pascal, creators on new Grogu revelations and 'Last of Us' comparisons, Saved by the bell: Contestant ordered to keep mask on, in historic 'Masked Singer' first, Chris Pine admits 'it does look' like Harry Styles spit on him but this is what actually happened, Rebel Wilson 'collapsed' after Ramona Agruma proposal: 'I was so overwhelmed', Amy Grant recalls being 'so scared' to return to touring following serious bike accident. This is FRESH AIR. A person having a miscarriage may have to fly to another state, just so they or their doctor doesnt get into legal trouble. On August 9, 2021 And she would dance a little bit to the Beatles and stuff and started seeing the possibility that she might go into music one day. Im not a big AA guy, but Ill go every once in a while. YouTubes privacy policy is available here and YouTubes terms of service is available here. Warblers and wrens, hymn at my throat, shook and quivering. ", Shires and Isbell have a toddler daughter together, and thanks to gendered assumptions about the distribution of their parenting duties, Shires has fielded more than her share of questions about how she balances motherhood and music-making. Shires wrote the song a few years ago and originally imagined it as a conversation between several women, but revamped it to feature her collaborator and husband. If you share your story or share your beliefs, youre going to get some haters and trolls. And we would be quiet so that she wouldnt get in trouble because it was a lot then to be a single mom and deal with the difference in pay for men versus women. The Problem wraps up by driving home the weight of the decision for her character. But this part of my life in our marriage was difficult. Boosted and very grateful for it., When a fan asked how his wife Amanda Shires and their daughter are feeling, Isbell answered, Mercy is negative with no symptoms and Amanda didnt come with me on this run, shes negative at home. She makes the decision before it gets to the point where she makes a mistake, and I like that. GROSS: With the Texas Playboys when youre performing with them or something that you learned from one of your teachers but that really made you fall in love with the style and that epitomizes what that style is. So since they are personal songs, you had to decide to say that. If youre just joining us, my guest is songwriter, singer and musician Amanda Shires, and her latest album is called Take It Like A Man. Well be right back. Shires has released seven solo albums starting in 2005, her most recent being Take It Like a Man in 2022. Moon, in all your splendor. Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. Singer, songwriter and fiddle player Amanda Shires still remembers the moment she fell in love with the fiddle. And then and the words are amazing and always brought me a smile. Wherever you get that support whether in a relationship or friends no matter what you believe, you can believe to support somebody through something hard.. It was love at first listen, Shires says of the fiddle songs. And Id sit on his porch. SHIRES: Theres a medication that you cant take right now after, you know, about two weeks after this happened to me. Got myself a breakthrough case of Covid- feeling fine but well have to cancel the next few shows (Asheville, Louisville, Columbus, Wilkes-Barre, and Wilmington). And after he did his time, he didnt say anything about it. Along And because I was in the time of my life where I was having a disconnect in my marriage and not feeling great in with music but I discovered that it takes a lot to be vulnerable, and it takes a lot to talk to folks and to understand each other. So heres my guest, Amanda Shires, and Jason Isbell singing her song, The Problem.. Never one to shy away from his beliefs, Isbell implored his fellow man, in Alabama or otherwise, to get vaccinated, that is, if they wanted to see him perform in person, hoping to make a difference. It was Fault Lines.. And nobody would let me in, but I sat there anyway. SHIRES: I didnt know anything about them. I could just trust based on how Leonard Cohen did all that work for us. I got to a certain age and realized I couldnt be Indiana Jones.. Our technical director and engineer is Audrey Bentham. And I had been internally bleeding for a whole lot of hours. Can you play something that you think kind of epitomizes the style that you learned and fell in love with? I mean, is it fatal for a woman if nothing is done? Trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble, trouble. But, yeah, after a while thinking about it, I got more comfortable with it. Theres a lot of things you do with your hands, but it struck me the most is matching the feeling of desperation or even begging. Theres nothing left to fix. If writing came easier sober, playing live was terrifying at first, he says. And it was a Carrie Underwood song from it was, like, six years before that or something. GROSS: That your Father had spent 25 years in Alcatraz? When we left off, we were talking about when Shires was 15 and started playing fiddle with the Texas Playboys, which used to be Bob Wills band. Our interviews and reviews are produced and edited by Amy Salit, Phyllis Myers, Sam Briger, Lauren Krenzel, Heidi Saman, Therese Madden, Ann Marie Baldonado, Thea Chaloner, Seth Kelley and Susan Nyakundi. Shed been learning to play classical music on the violin at school when her music teacher introduced her to some of Frankie McWhorters fiddle tunes. "Maybe it was circumstance, but I saw my chance and I took it," she boasts, her tone fuzzed-out by distortion. In 2020, The Highwomen won album of the year at the Americana Music Honors & Awards ceremony. Grammy Award-winning songwriter Amanda Shires and bestselling author George Saunders discuss inspiration, songwriting, and Amanda's new song, "You Don't Get to Go." It made me think, You know, I bet our grandmothers are more pro-choice than everybody leads us to believe.. And Lanny Fiel, he would say, youre really, really great at the parts you love. But I think she probably knew. And this is basically, like, a country supergroup. Amanda Shires' To the Sunset comes out Aug. 3. I never wouldve thought that before, but now I know its true. And it was a picture of hands holding on to nothing. The next time Jason Isbell told Amanda Shires he wanted to quit, she began talking with his manager about facilitating a trip to rehab. However, the "night-before bender" nearly broke them. Shires told WNYC Studios, "He wanted to do every drug, drink every thing, drink the moonshine, all the late night stuff, it was crazy. I want to talk with you about The Highwomen. Thats what I want. I mean, only just now nine months later, interestingly enough have I returned to having normal periods. SHIRES: Theres this song called Milk Cow Blues. Its blues, you know? I know everyone is scared of losing their rung on the ladder, but there are more important things, I think, than your fame. Im glad to hear it. She co-founded the country supergroup The Highwomen, which includes Brandi Carlile, Maren Morris and Natalie Hemby. Its pretty obvious.. Theres so much attached to folks thinking women treat it as a kind of birth control. Shes also one of the founders of the group the Highwomen. GROSS: Well, thank you for doing that. And these guys are in their 70s and 80s, and it was very much like hanging out with lots of granddads. The 200 Greatest Singers of All Time So Amanda, you took fiddle lessons from Frankie McWhorter, who played with Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys from 60 to 62 62 was the year that Bob Wills had a heart attack and retired for a long time from music. GROSS: Well, I want to take a short break here. The attention hes getting for Southeastern, from the opening recovery track Cover Me Up and the brutally stark Elephant to the full-throttle raver Super 8, feels like its coming at the right time, after hed had ample opportunity to get good at what he does. And she also plays in her husband, Jason Isbells, band. If youre just joining us, my guest is songwriter, singer, musician Amanda Shires. One is a Honduran asylum-seeker who died while trying to cross the border. And then you also get to play you get to improvise, which is when you go off the page, as they say, or you just play what you feel within the chords. And so I got to do that basically because I was willing to work in a group and play a part and do just that thing and show up on time. Im Terry Gross, and this is FRESH AIR. So I started just taking notes on the radio because in 22 songs, [I heard] one womans voice and it was a Carrie Underwood song from six years before that or something. People will have to prove that they have been raped. When it reopened, he was in the first 200. If you see my milk cow, please drive her on home cause I had no milk and butter no since my cows been gone. I dont understand why its such a big issue, as big of an issue as it is. It's a sentiment that Shires has echoed many times since. In a June 2022 follow-up, the artist detailed for Rolling Stone her experience of ending a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy in August 2021. Its yet another thing that, when policing does happen, is going to happen haphazardly and ruin lives. SHIRES: About singing, yes. I remember I used to think the force was strong with him, says Tompkins, who signed his first publishing deal when he moved to Nashville at 22. I was like, Thats what I want to do, because you play this song and then you get to improvise you just play what you feel within the chord. Im on your side. requiring proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative COVID test, even facing backlash from his fellow artists, Buy newspaper front pages, posters and more. Probably nobody enjoys it as much as I do, but its not a necessity for survival. Since starting I So Lounging, Shires YouTube following has grown 300 percent. And in this certain period of time, there was a lot. Im going to play fiddle and Im going to sing in. It doesnt have to be Im Your Man. I just know that youve done that. I am your man. GROSS: So you ended up, like, accompanying him. SHIRES: On August 9, yes, I was in Texas at Austin City Limits. When youre trying to make a tough decision, you need a lot of support. But one time, you know, not everybody could make a show. Amanda Shires was named emerging artist of the year at the 2017 Americana Music and Honors Awards Ceremony. So to give listeners a sense of Bob Wills & The Texas Playboys, listeners who dont know who they are, this is a classic 1940 recording of New San Antonio Rose., (SOUNDBITE OF SONG, NEW SAN ANTONIO ROSE), BOB WILLS AND HIS TEXAS PLAYBOYS: (Singing) Deep within my heart lies a melody, a song of old San Antone (ph) San Antone where in dreams I live with a memory beneath the stars, all alone. I tried so hard to make myself clear. If you want a boxer, Ill step in the ring for you. GROSS: What I hear in your voice is that it rings out. It's not often in country musicor pop music for that matterin which an artist addresses a very personal and sensitive subject like abortion through a song. Like, do you say, hey, honey, heres a song I wrote about how bad things are between us right now? "Last night you walked me to my car / You said, 'You won't be getting far before you turn around,'" she sings, her phrasing seesawing and scampering. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. Use of and/or registration on any portion of this site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement, Privacy Policy and Cookie Statement, and Your Privacy Choices and Rights (each updated 1/26/2023). I just feel like that invites a lot of conversation and questions, you know, into our marriage and our relationship. Or is this through listening to his records that you feel like youre his disciple? And then it was never like, oh, they have to be on a record once I do record them. GROSS: Were you nervous about being on stage or just about singing? At age 34, hes got the baggy eyes of a man who has spent a lot of time thinking hard late at night. And if anyone asks me, Ill say whats true I dont know. GROSS: Oh, yeah. When I wrote my first piece for Rolling Stone, Id had an abortion before. When it came down to it, when I finally got it done and recorded, Amy Coney Barrett had gotten sworn in. Subscribe: http://bit.ly/1lq9aEQTour the Ryman: http://bit.ly/tourtherymanVisit the Ryman Calendar: http://bit.ly/rymanconcertsAbout the Ryman Auditorium:Established in 1982 as the Union Gospel Tabernacle and renamed for the visionary who constructed it, Captain Tom G. Ryman, the Ryman Auditorium is a National Historic Landmark and cultural epicenter of Nashville, TN. Likewise, the changes underway to the Supreme Court after the death of Ruth Bader Ginsburg could also mean that abortion rights will come under fire nationally. 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SHIRES: Well, myself and Brandi wrote the song. Its a lot like writing a song about it. If we tell our stories, it helps other people feel empowered. Shires character wrestles with the decision and the right thing to do in her situation, while Isbells character offers his support for whatever decision she makes. In 2016 there was 13% representation of women to men on country radio, and now it still sits pleasantly at 16% on a good week. Ive found and scrounged and continue to for every interview that hes done in any form, in any language. I could tell my milk cow I could tell by the way she lows. Refunds at point of purchase but were working on rescheduling. Or did you keep the songs, like, kind of secret for a while? Recently, I had an ectopic pregnancy, she tweeted. And then my mom would drive me down there. And after we recorded it, he said, thats a really good song. SHIRES: Yep, yep on his songs without asking him. And this is after some kind of nebulous argument. And healer seemed fitting for me not only because it happened that way, but my moms a nurse. SHIRES: No, not until a couple of years ago. Where are our Nashville folks? And tell us how. I was lucky. To see more, visit. I know they enjoy it. Me and @JasonIsbell RCA studio B making a musical recording. Its as opposed to being in the uterus, where it belongs. BRANDI CARLILE: (Singing) I was a Highwoman and a mother from my youth. Some people are upset at the way iPhones charge. This has been the hardest year. I cant see a thing from here. Cancelling shows feels awful, I know. We both know that none of that was keeping, keeping me anyhow. And my hands are two empty cups. My daughter was about a year old, and I was getting into my touring van because I hadnt worked my way into a bus yet. SHIRES: Well, that was that parts a secret, Terry. My family left Honduras when they killed the Sandinistas. I know I can take it like a man. Jason Isbell will put his tour on hold after announcing he tested positive with for COVID-19. Wade was leaked last month, Amanda Shires shared some personal news on social media. hide caption. And usually that works. Shires plays fiddle in her husband Jason Isbells band, Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit. And the character you wrote yourself out to be, the flagship all part of my fooling. Bergen is a reporter for Bloomberg Businessweek. Amanda Shires is in Serious Trouble in Hawk for the Dove Fallon Performance Where would that leave my own daughter? The Grammy-winning singer, songwriter and guitarist from Green Hill, Ala., made headlines in 2021 for requiring proof of vaccination or proof of a recent negative COVID test to attend his concerts. You slammed the door so hard I still hear rattling spoons. The bastards hung me at the Salem gallows hill. GROSS: The bail bondsmen are often their offices are often located in a very low-rent part of town. (SOUNDBITE OF AMANDA SHIRES SONG, HAWK FOR THE DOVE), GROSS: Our digital media producer is Molly Seavy-Nesper. But I had about seven different album sequences going on. Members get extended access to PBS video on demand and more. GROSS: Lets take another break here. And I said, Id love to. Well, why dont you sing some of it for us? So I dont have to go trying to learn all these other things. We want to hear it. "Through a sunset, shifting gears, to the something better shining diamond clear.". So I couldnt really get into it. And hed play songs, and Id learn them. You can call me serious trouble. Shires, an incisive songwriter and solo artist and occasional member of husband Jason Isbells 400 Unit band, has been vocal about protecting a womans right to choose in the past. I remember thinking, Wow, theres a lot of potential for me to really mess this up.'. Her study essentially proves that when folks cant have an abortion, it affects their mental health, their economic standing, their overall well-being. I just fell in love with the music, is what happened. Another is a freedom rider who died during the Freedom Rides. But I think folks forget that access to abortion and reproductive healthcare is not just about terminating unwanted pregnancy. But they also understood that I was a kid. Im glad to be a listener and also glad to see folks from those generations supporting the right to choose. When do you show him the songs? That last talk left me a makeup rainbow of tears, turned everything blurry. So lets do that. And then I asked Chance, and Chance was like, no, those are real documents. So did you ever visit her at work? The most-watched episode was from April 8th, filmed the day after John Prine In the decade-plus that Shires has been making solo albums in addition to working as a side person with Billy Joe Shaver, Justin Townes Earle and, eventually, her husband and fellow singer-songwriter Jason Isbell she's expressed self-consciousness about the shivers and tremors in her singing voice, tried to smooth them out of her delivery and ultimately embraced its untameness. And that song, its part my story and part, you know, stories I know from friends. In Portland, he led the band (including his wife on fiddle) through charging, heartfelt songs that often sounded like the cavalry was coming. And the fallopian tube just cant it it cant expand enough to accommodate a growing fetus. And so I felt in my mind, I felt those things. It took me a minute to really learn how to improvise, Shires says of those early years. SHIRES: It was because Tommy Allsup was living in Snyder, Texas, at that time, and he was running the Bob Wills band. Amy Salit and Susan Nyakundi produced and edited this interview for broadcast. And he said, well, you can always put it on there and just choose not to answer questions about it and, you know or you can he was pushing for me to leave Fault Lines on there because it is a good song, as he said. I think a lot of women are born healers and nurturers. So I would be studying my pieces. Theres not a lot of filler, not a lot of songs I would skip through, he says. Tax ID: 26-2810489, Copyright 2022 Fresh Air. It rings out like its supposed to. As if to match it, she experimented for the first time with filtering the sound of her fiddle through effects pedals, which lends her playing a fierce luminescence. And but I think for the players in the band, they took me seriously as a player. Where does that get us with our Fourth and Fifth Amendment rights? 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