Sitting just above the narrowest ski in the series, the Bent 90 is Atomic's take on an all-mountain park ski. If the number you see has a decimal, then youre probably looking at your Mondo Point size which isnt accurate enough to use when mounting bindings. I read your comment about metal, not sure if the Tracer has any. Eric, Hi Eric! Appreciate the feedback! I read a lot of your reviews to help me understand more about the differences, so thank you for that! You certainly don't "need" metal in your skis, but if you're a pretty aggressive guy I think you'll appreciate at least having some. Have fun! In terms of versatility, the QST 99 can be described as a ski with a very even mix of performance characteristics for different terrain and snow conditions. SE, Keeping in tradition with the twin tip and more freeride-orientation, the Holyshred also employs a relatively long turn radius, coming in at 19 meters in the 182 cm length. You can use them most days when the snow is soft. Weve had these in over two feet of fresh snow, and frankly, they do just fine. Its a quick-turning ski, though, so a fantastic choice for woods and bumps, even with the stiffnessthe lightness more than makes up for it in the maneuverability department. Hey SE! It's just a matter of whether you're willing to give up a little bit of responsiveness on firm snow. Thanks, Because ski bindings are so precise, it's crucial to have them mounted to the BSL and not the Mondo Point. Aggressive skiers who are looking for a stable carver that can plow through the crud and chop. But currently I'm looking for a one-ski quiver that will be maneuverable enough for some quick tight turns but will also let me float a bit in the soft stuff and hold a carving turn or two at mid-speed when required. We like how they've put the camber back underfoot in the Mantra, it really makes the hard snow performance stand out once again. Advanced and Expert skiers who are looking for power, dampness, and stability. I am 52 years old and i am 5-10 and 185. First of all, love your reviews! Have fun! Overall I would describe them as a fun, playful ski. Awesome! Chairlift Chat is the official blog of Skiessentials.com. I'd look to those and see if something strikes you! . You agree given my stats? My new ski should work great off piste, work ok on piste (ideally even if it is icy), turn easily so that the ski teaching will be easy. Theyre not as smooth as the sick days on the groomers so Im hoping that detune will help because theyre definitely easier to throw around. Who it's For: You're not the most aggressive skier on the hill and you like to spend more time off the trail than on it. It is, in fact, one of the better skis weve ever tested in the tight Vermont woods, as its able to make quick and subsequent turns with a modicum of effort. 2022 . Hope that helps, Could be powder, park, groomers, trees, or bumps, you do not care, and neither does the Camox. Wir haben uns die Zeit genommen , den Gegenstand grndlich zu analyseren und zu bewerten, um Ihnen eine umfassende Summary seiner Anwendungsbereiche zu liefern. Kind regards, If the box is left blank, the skis and bindings will be sent separately and unmounted. You can also wax on top of the Phantomed skis for added glide. Out West, where things are a bit more open, its not uncommon to see skiers on skis much taller than themselves. I'm a advanced skier from western Canada. I mean theyre both pretty light and soft(ish) skis. Which length would you recommend: 1.77 or 1.84? SE. I size up. This gives the ski an insane amount of stability and smoothness that is not found elsewhere in such a playful ski. Hey guys I don't think you're too big for the 181 cm length by any means, but if you really felt like the 181 cm 106 felt short, you could size up. However I've grown tired of groomers and like to challenge myself some more. The Blizzard Rustler 10 is the natural progression from the Regulators. Happy to chat more about it if you have other questions. Love it but on slushy days or out west I feel as if a little extra girth might come in handy. If you're looking for a more playful ski, than the BC 100 is a great choice, but if you're looking to ski on the more aggressive/hard-charging side of things, the Enforcer 100 is pretty tough to beat. I think you're a 185/184 skier for the most part except for family time, but then they'll just be on the heavy side. $226.06. SE, How would you compare the M Free 99 to the Bent Chetler 100 and the Camex? I'm 5'10", 180 lbs. That ski essentially blends the performance of the Sky 7 and the Bonafide that you demoed. I'm 182cm (hair under 6ft) so feeling the 180cm size could be the one rather than the 'go-longer-dude' 188cm. Between those, the Mantra has more of a metallic feel while the Bonafide is more woody. It does operate better when brought up to speed, especially when its not in fresh snow. Throw some tricks in the park, ski some powder, maneuver through trees, and do it all with Chris Bentchetler's signature style (maybe). The Vantage 97 Ti is a perfect example of that concept. Thanks you for thinking along, really appreciate it! They have a great blend of stability and maneuverability. I like to charge hard and make nice big super-g turns, but also looking for a ski a bit more agile in the moguls and trees. Have fun! I'm 5'10 and 150lbs, age 30 and a reasonably advance and aggressive skier, mostly in CO. I have slalom skis for the groomer days but I ski on my Rossis on everything off groomers. I like the extra stability on groomers, and with 102mm waist widths, the extra length allows me to use these skis in light powder on those rare East Coast days. It uses their Ultra-Light wood core, which is supported by Innegra Mesh throughout the ski. What do you think about those for my needs? Ratios are fun. Lower in the tail than the tip, these skis end up being remarkably playful in fresh snowmore so than youd think with a ski with two sheets of metal. I know r/skiing loves both of the Bent Chetler skis, but I really haven't ever found either are that exceptional. The Rustler 9, which is quite similar, is actually a little more maneuverable because it uses more pronounced tip and tail rocker. Along those lines, I also really appreciate the K2 Pinnacle 95 and the LIberty Origin 96 as lighter-weight alternatives to the Enforcer/Bonafide heft. You notice it most in the completion phase of the turn where the 100 likes to hold on until the end while the 104 is more playful. Think of it as a shoe size, like a "size 11" for example. After doing some research and reading through your advice to others, it seems like the the Kore 105, Salomon QST 106, K2 Pinnacle 105, and Blizzard Rustler 10 might be what I'm looking for, but I can't decide if I want a heavier or lighter ski. It's a heavier ski for sure, and while you could grow into it in terms of performance, it may be on the prohibitive side at first. I've been skiing on the Rossi s3 since 2013 so it's time for an upgrade. The extended tip rocker goes well with the low tail profile, creating a good blend of grip in the carve as well as playful flotation. Good Day everyone! For classic or touring poles, the correct size pole should reach your armpit. The K2 Pinnacle 95 is another strong and versatile ski that can make a variety of turn shapes and styles in a bunch of different conditions. You sound like a QST skier to me. We often refer to this ski as a Cadillac in that it is smooth, strong, and capable. Montana in December, Colorado in February, and a few trips to Mammoth and Tahoe throughout the year. Hi Dennis! SE. Kind regards, We were somewhat expecting the Kore 99 to be on the stiff side, but probably not at the very end. SoooooAtomic Chetler 100 and Blizzard Rustler 10 have come on my radar and I can get good deals on both right now. They will chatter at speeds on the hard pack. After suffering a catastrophic spiral tib/fib in 2010 I hung em up. Not overly stiff, but stable enough to support a heavier skier. It sounds like you're leaning to the Enforcer, and as an Enforcer 100 owner, I don't think I want to talk you out of it. It uses a wood core made from silver fir and beech, sandwiched between two full sheets of titanal metal, and finished with carbon and fiberglass. Best Regards, HI Jesper! Looking for an all mountain powder capable ski(no park) and something that can handle the icy east coast. Also the Volkl Deacon 84 (or RTM 84 from previous years) are great skis. 2022 Ski Comparisons: Men's ~100mm All Mountain Ski Guide. I think if you're on-piste more, I'd lean to the volkl. The question then would be what the right place to go might be. Not a particularly "fun" ski anywhere but a competent ski that didn't wear me out like the M5's (meh). Will, Hi Will! I'd say the 181 is the right size in that ski for you. All the skis you listed are great. Hi Dave! None of your choices are "wrong," but that QST just does everything well. I've skied it here in VT in about a foot and a half of light, dry snow, and it floated great, so unless you're in bottomless, I don't think the slight flotation advantage of the Rustler is worth the sacrifice, especially when it comes to on-trail performance. Hi! If you're holding the right size pole, you'll notice that your elbow forms a perfect 90 degree angle between your bicep and forearm. SE. Find your street shoe size on the chart, determine men's, women's, or kid's, and find the corresponding Mondo size! With fiberglass on top and bottom of the wood core, these skis have a tremendous amount of energy and snap, providing even aggressive expert skiers the proper foundation to push the boundaries. Basically the exact same construction between the 106 and 99, and you already know you like that feel. We have a few of them in this comparison, and they do a great job at being a lot of different things to a lot of different skiers. For bindings, you shouldn't have any trouble with the Griffon. Let me know what you think! But perhaps Ive got enough weight and height to get enough reaction out of the 184 Mantras if I need shorter turns? I've been looking mainly at the Bent Chetler 100s but would love further input. I am looking to buy a new pair of skis, more playful and freestyle-oriented than my current Rossignol EST. Advanced: This might be one of the hardest groups to identify. I've got a question where I'm not sure whether it's time for new skis this season. I typically, however, recommend it for lighter weight skier more than skiers your size. Meet your new daily driverThe Atomic Bent Chetler 100 is made for skiers who want to go everywhere and do everything on the mountain. You want something thats both easy to turn and has a high-performance ceiling. For next year, I'll be skiing almost entirely in the west (going to try to hit all of the Mountain Collective in North America), though I don't have the luxury of timing my ski days around fresh snow, so I'll be skiing the mountains as they are. Whats your advice? Chairlift Chat is the official blog of Skiessentials.com. JavaScript seems to be disabled in your browser. Hi John! The Bonafide is worth a look as well, with a 98 mm waist, the thing holds a really good edge. To determine your size, simply flip a ski pole over, grab it under the basket, and place the handle on the ground. I suppose I'm also a bit confused because with much of my skiing being on moguls (of the sort that develop as a steep slope is left alone, not regularly shaped competitive ones), specialized mogul skis would be close to slalom skis, whereas skis for variable surface conditions get quite a bit wider--so what does one best use on moguls with variable surface conditions? Hi Pete! We've found that a lot of former snowboarders really like the Bent Chetler 100. Beginner skiers are classified as people who have never ever skied, right up to those just starting to dabble in Intermediate trails. SE. Hi SE, Skiers who value stability and power over lightness and flotation. Cheers from the Great White North. The flex pattern and shape of the Pinnacle 95 Ti give it really good performance in soft snow. Up until this winter, I was skiing entirely in the east, mostly smaller NY and PA hills, with a few trips to Whiteface. True all-mountain skiers who want something equally at home in the bumps and trees as it is on the groomers. A couple weeks ago we took a look at 15 different all-mountain skis in the 90 mm waist width range. I was leaning towards the Rustler 10 but the QST sounds good too. That said, the shape of the Tracer 98 leans more toward soft snow performance and maneuverability than edge grip. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. If youve looked all over and still cant find your BSL, its also acceptable to measure along the bottom of the boot from the very tip of the toe, to back of the heel- just make sure you measure in Millimeters! Thanks so much for the reviews! We do see the ski drop a few millimeters in the waist as it gets narrower, so make sure to take that into account if this ski is on your list. Your email address will not be published. Can you compare the 2 i mentioned. You sound like a really good candidate for the QST 99. The Atomic Bent 100 is a do-everything freeride ski. The BC 100 is one of the best all around freeride skis out there. Not quite the power of the M5, but it's certainly no slouch. It's about as versatile and friendly of a ski that you'll find. Should I just flip a coin or do you guys recommend one over the other for me. Hi there. To determine your size, simply flip a ski pole over, grab it under the basket, and place the handle on the ground. Long answer: You feel like a really good candidate for a Blizzard Rustler 9 or a Nordica Enforcer 93. The sick days (104)float much better than the bc (100). I love my Bonafide (crushing it yesterday at Breck) but I'm getting old and pushing 2 sheets of metal wearing me out. That said, you don't have to be a park-style skier to enjoy it, it's kind of like a Ranger 98 Ti that's more focused on soft snow performance. Intermediate: Congratulations! The new 98 is a way better floater than the 92 that you have--more deep taper and extended rocker in that ski makes a big difference. SE. The mix of poplar and beech, arranged in vertical stringers, carries the quality and precision of Kastle skis through, offering that high-end feel and energy with more of a minimalistic build. They're 104 underfoot and have a turned-up tail (but not a true twin-tip) and they are tons of fun. They just also have that low gear that you need for skiing with kids. How they can stand to be bend the way that they do and continue skiing is beyond me, but good for the engineers over at Line for figuring out how on earth to build a ski like this. Perhaps you don't get the same preference to finish a carving turn as with the MX 99. The Rustler 10 has metal underfoot that tapers towards the tip and tail of the ski, so it feels more stout underfoot, but since you don't ski terribly fast, you might not need that metal. Skiers who prefer speed and flotation in the fresh snow. I am 58 and ride the enforcer 100 in a 177 length, primarily on the ice coast. Think about it alongside the Origin 96 and the Ranger 102 FR, although its construction gives it arguably a more playful feel than either of those skis. Thank you for all the great accessible information. I'm really leaning towards the QST 99, Bent Chetler 100 or Enforcer 100 - I'm not sure how to decide between the group nor 100% certain on the length - I think i was on a 181 last week, but I think i'd also be comfortable on the 188. I'm guessing you'll ultimately choose another ski, but I also think you'd enjoy finding out what the new Mantra is all about. Thanks for your help! Youre that good at skiing. I'm in western Canada, so I ski Banff, Lake Louise, Kicking Horse. The bad news, is that it can be a bit more difficult to do- but thats why were here. I currently ride Salomon XDR 88 and im looking for something I can float better with and get a little more play/pop while still having good grip and maneuverability. Advanced: This might be one of the hardest groups to identify. Ha! In a lot of ways, the Bonafide is quite similar to the MX 99. That long tip rocker also helps smooth out turn initiation on firm snow, helping you to link carving turns. The only benefit would be increased stability at speed, but I don't think that's a huge concern here. Hope that helps! We're looking for your Mondo Point size, and the conversion is easy! This boosts its soft snow performance and helps the ski float in soft snow, despite only having a 95 mm waist. Im 6-1 and 205lbs. It has the torsional stiffness to hold an edge on firm snow, the stability needed to ski fast and aggressively, yet it's also light enough to tour with without being exhausting. Was: $975.00. That's why I thought that I need something with a wide range and still all-mountain oriented, but as I am not an expert I don't know the maneuverability of new twin-tip skis. The metal over the edges in the forebody of the ski makes it precise and reactivewhen you tip the ski on edge, it really initiates nicely and pulls you through the turn. They will need to set the forward pressure, DIN, toe height, and test the bindings with your boot to ensure safety. I like slashing through the trees and in moguls - so I need something that will turn quickly but also give me some float. Hope that helps! I'm 6'2"- 205lbs. You have some great skis on your list! I own a pair of Pinnacle 105, so I'm pretty biased. SE, Hi SE, I liked to dart into the trees and find some fresh powder on the backside when I can. Skill wise, youll be able to control your speed with snowplowing, wedging, or forming a pizza. It has some obvious freeski-influence in its design, loves natural features. For your light option, go with the Rustler, but if you're looking to go a bit heavier (again, not much), I'm a Pinnacle 105 fan. In the 180, were looking at an 18-meter turn radius, so these skis do have the proclivity of being on edge. Take a look at the chart below, and if you have any trouble figuring out your size range, scroll past the cart to where we provide more information regarding these categories. Have fun! In most cases, this is the right call, but skiers should be geo-conscious before buying more than they can handle. I have also had a few folks recommend liberty origin 106s as they will supposedly be a blast on the tram but still hold up when I need an edge. I have seen them not release to the correct newton meter values during torque testing, but only for really lightweight skiers. A new addition to the Bent family, the 110 is the long awaited ski that bridges the gap between the 120 and 100. I will use them most of the time in the resort but I often go off-trails. The other thing that stands out with the Stance 102 is the fact that it has fairly dramatic tip and tail rocker. SE. Add two sheets of metal and two fiberglass laminates to the mix, and youve got a great deal of power and energy in the ski. Rossignol is willing to give up some stability and vibration damping in this ski in exchange for maneuverability and forgiveness, which is a popular choice among skiers who like to spend most of their time off trail in the trees, moguls, etc. Youre that good at skiing. Had a hard time bleeding off speed when needed. Hey SE! I do a lot of tree runs and love to find powder but I also love to rip groomers and charge more than carve on them. The lower rise rocker gives the ski better edge contact on firm snow, which has improved carving performance. Tail rocker combined with the twin tip shape allows you to release the tail edge quite easily, yet it will hold an edge on firm snow even when you're skiing aggressively. The Bonafides did really well on the groomers but felt a little heavy to me and a bit stiff. However, if you are looking for a charging ski that has no limitations, you would be very happy with either! The good news is that the all around quality of skis is increasing, making it more possible than ever to find a ski that fits your specific style and preferences. I felt the origin to be too soft and the rustler was great but I'm definitely looking for something more in the 100mm width category. But perhaps Ive got enough weight to get the 184 Mantra to react just as well? That said, it sounds like you might like that in a ski. Similar, though, to the K2, this Salomon also likes to be used in more of a hard-charging and straight-lining format. It would help your progress in moguls and trees, so if you wanted to focus more on that progression than firm snow, you could pick up a Kore. I just got back into skiing last year. It uses some of the longest rocker in this comparison article, especially in the tip. Have you read the Blister Gear Review on each one yet? I'm not generally carving groomed at really high speeds but need something that can handle all conditions for all mtn and then a suggestion for those deep days. This makes the ski pretty responsive out of the tail, but when combined with the more flexible nature of the ski, its still pretty darn playful. If you know youre not an Intermediate skier still, but arent quite confident enough to call yourself an expert, then chances are this is you. Its pretty apparent when you click in and push off, that youre not only on a very precise and high-quality piece of ski machinery, but also a super high-performance one as well. But I still want something so that I can be aggressive / ski off-piste crud and powder when I want. The first thing I noticed about the Bent Chetlers was that they do feel light, at first they kind of reminded me of my old skinny park skis the first time I jumped on the chair and my feet were just dangling. Im looking for something a little better for off piste, powder and tight tree runs. I have been skiing Line Chronics for the past 5 years, they are pretty narrow underfoot and only like 176 in length. If you're worried about that, you could consider going with the 188 cm length. That's just barely taller than you, which usually works well for the QST 99. Hi Jon! Like to rip through the trees, love the steep and deep and am enjoying the bumps more and more all the time. This construction is similar to what we see in race skis. Love the review. Considering your weight, I'm thinking either QST 99 or Ranger 98 Ti would be best. Do you think this would be an appropriate ski for me? Because it uses so much rocker and because it's fairly light, it skis a little short. 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