Lisa:So, and this is really just personal curiosity, what about Barry Mehler? Lisa:Ah, charming. But with the emergence of Shockley, they had a mainstream scientist on their team now, and they funded him lavishly from the quote, unquote, "Throne in New York" As they called Wickliffe Draper's house. Stuff was pouring off the presses from him. About | Browse this Partner Contact Us His guest for the episode was Charles Murray, who co-authored the 1994 book, The Bell Curve. He and I were both reading The Thunderbolt, right? It gets stranger. I would send in a membership. And remember, the Harvard Educational Review, they published it. He's, he's got this letter from the president saying that, you know, he's a terrific guy and you should support his publication. Rigo:Yeah, and it claimed that Black people were a threat to civilization, and that they should be repatriated back to Africa. First, on the idea front. Phillipe Rushton on Donohue:Oriental populations have less sexual partners than do whites. Expressing frustration over teaching in person during the pandemic of viewers sent me the video upset about the language, but a couple of Ferris state students stand by mailer. He called it The Case of Barry Mehler. The publication of the book put The Pioneer Fund and Barry Mehler on the spotlight. Phil Donahue's Rigo:So instead of going to the police, Barry asked his friends who used to be Marines to come live in his house with their guns and their 125 pound rottweiler. on May 24, 2022, https://mytvlog.blogspot.com/2010/03/phil-donahue-show-1970-tv-series-1970.html, There are no reviews yet. Rigo:Roger Pearson was a British guy who starting in 1958 ran a neo Nazi publication called Northern World out of a British tea plantation in Kolkata, India. I really hope this will be of interest to you." He travels to Spain. Barry:I mean, to this day I can't, you know, tell you what that does to me. The book has 57 pages of bibliography, many from mainstream scientific journals, but some of them are far from reputable. Although it was widely dismissed, it is still cited today as evidence that white people are smarter than Black people, and it's all biological. Please tell me someone noticed that this was happening. And I thought, "Wow, this is terrific." Lisa:Oh, this is another opportunity for me to go Wickliffe Preston Draper, isn't it? The name calling incident was a rude awakening, but things would unfortunately get worse from there. Lisa:Ah, the infamous William Shockley. He is an actor and producer, known for Body of War (2007), Donahue (1967) and The Bold and the Beautiful (1987). If I was on a national public radio program, that's fine. Paul: And while he's in Europe Draper quite literally pals around with Nazis. Rigo:Of course, it had to be him. It brought together two different groups, those American scientists who were opposed to the civil rights movement, and who wanted to emphasize the inferiority of Blacks, and European scientists who were still promoting the kind of racial hygiene that had been at the core of the policies instituted by the Third Reich. 7 (July, 1991), Cross-Port InnerView, Vol. Rigo:Right. And we just went down a whole list, and, you know, and he confirmed that he was all those people. You've got You have something wrong with that? Capture a web page as it appears now for use as a trusted citation in the future. This is an episode from the spring of 1990. Barry Mehler on Donohue:I gave a press conference and he came to hear me and I gave a paper and afterwards we sat down for a cup of coffee together and he said, Barry, you made some excellent points, but this Neo Nazi business, I mean, I know these people, you talking about stand up guys. And I said, Phil, you're in a stand up. And, um, my son picked up the phone one day, and this, uh, guy said to him, um, "I'm gonna kill you, chop you up into pieces, and mail you back to your dad in boxes.". Just to give you an example of how this works, the journal Nature currently has an impact score of 40, and the Mankind Quarterly sits below one, but none of this mattered to the people in the Mankind Quarterly. What Pearson had done was he brought together all of these fascist intellectuals, academics that had been orphaned by the war, and they needed a place to come together. Have you ever heard of Arthur Jensen? Lisa:So what happened to The Pioneer Fund? He started researching eugenics in grad school, and his methods were not typical to say the least. Rigo:I am, and he starts out telling a sort of funny story about seeing Rushton at a conference, but then he gets really serious. The Hagley Digital Archives provides online access to selected items from the Hagley Library's collection of images, documents, and publications related to the history of business, technology, and society. Play all Barry:Laughlin had the in roads, uh, the contact with legislators, the machinery of propaganda, and Draper had the money, and those two things went together to make Laughlin the first president of the foundation that was formed by Draper. What is the English language plot outline for Donahue (1967)? Rigo:Bill Tucket says that when Shockley came out as a racist in the 1960s, The Pioneer Fund must have felt like they won the lottery without even buying a ticket. Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, Read allThe precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. Barry:He is eventually recognized by the Nazi government in 1936, both because of his work in the sterilization area, but also because he was a major proponent of the so called Racial Integrity Laws, the laws that prohibited people from being married if they were from different races. Lisa:Oh, right. McNeil/Leher Report:Race remains one of this country's most divisive topics and a controversial book with racially charged findings hasn't helped the debate. Rigo:Yeah. Lisa:Right. And, and I know he doesn't understand, the movement that he's a part of begins in the Hitler and the institutions that Phil belongs to grow right out of the Hitler era. Lisa: Ah, charming. After the publishing of The Bell Curve, and the controversy surrounding it, The Pioneer Fund decided to step out of the spotlight and continue doing the things they knew how to do well since 1937, which was to mail out unsolicited propaganda to prominent scientists and politicians. WebDonahue is joined by the cast of "The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of The Desert", as well as the Family Research Institute's founder, Paul Cameron, and drag performer CoCo Rigo:Yeah. But unfortunately for Mehler, this was not the end of it. Lisa:So it strikes me as we're watching this footage of the Phil Donahue Show that the audience is not responding the way Rushton would like them to, I think. 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Hagley Library is engaged in ongoing efforts to address and responsibly present evidence of oppression and injustice in our collections. He was previously married to Marge Cooney. Rigo:Yes. [laughs] You'd probably groan and hope you, like, you could avoid him at a faculty mixer, right? It was because I was not a mainstream scholar that I was able to get away with all the things that I was able to, to do, and I did survive. He started learning about the Klu Klux Klan, the right wing fascism and neo Nazis, and the thought about this stuff more and more until he reached a conclusion. WZZM:We begin tonight with that viral video filled with profanity made by a long time Ferris state university, professor. They wanted the ideas out but not their name. And before you try to tell me that he's still on the fringes, listen to this. Lisa:Because they don't want to take credit for their deeply held beliefs in public. So Rigo, you're one of our producers on our show, Distillations, and you've come in with a story today for us, right? Here's $1,000." Essentially, it gave racists a cover story. Roger Pearson, for example, had at least a dozen names that he used, and Barry Mehler and his mentor, Jerry Hirsch, help uncover the deception. Senior Producer: Mariel Carr Donahue's guests are two middle aged men who could really pass as accountants. The collections and research newsletter brings you the latest on our acquisitions, library events, and programs. Rigo:And Laughlin was on that wave length. The Czech army officers have more conference penises. Bill:In general, Pioneer funded two different groups of recipients. And by now, it's 1930s, and guess who else likes the idea of sterilizing people they deem to be inferior? Find out all the details of his life Rigo: Now, Rushton tries to avoid mentioning the crux of the argument, but Donahue kind of does a translation. Bill:And this was the first instance of what became Draper's trademark, um, maneuver throughout the rest of his life. So, Lisa, I know that you've done some research on eugenics because we've done other episodes that touch on it. It's like they were safe guarding race science ideology all these years. Our agenda to port bill Blakemore has been looking into a fairly obscure research fund that has drawn attention because of this book, the bell curve, a fund. 1 Donahue - Bob Mackie - 1988 45:40 2 Donahue - Female Impersonators - 1987 45:04 3 Donahue - Freaks - 1990 44:56 4 Donahue - Free To Be - 1988 27:23 5 Sometimes he goes through The Pioneer Fund, and sometimes he just gives money directly. ", And in a number of cases, it wasn't even money for the research, it was just money for the individuals, gifts, large gifts of personal checks to the people who carry on this research. Rigo:So the Mankind Quarterly was not taken seriously by their academics, and you can see that in their impact score. Stuff. Lisa:Okay. Lisa:He's a psychologist. They painted the swastika backwards." In 1967, Phil Donahue left his positions as news reporter and interviewer at WHIO radio and television in Dayton and became the host of a new television program, Phil Donahue Show on WLWD (now WDTN), also in Dayton. His new program replaced The Johnny Gilbert Show, when Gilbert left on short notice for Los Angeles for a hosting job. Let's switch gears and talk about the bearded guy on the right, who has amazing muttonchops. Lisa:Oh my God, I'm afraid to ask, Rigo, but you're gonna tell me. Okay. John Wayne appears on a 1976 episode of Donahue in front of an audience largely populated by women, and he discusses his life, his career, his stint as a singing cowboy, Ronald Reagan, impressionists, pornography, and much more. It was much more prevalent in the earlier part of the 20th Century, but as it has become less and less popular among, uh, the academic mainstream, the few people who still adhere to it are those funded by Pioneer. They didn't really care about the science, but they relied on the science to give some sort of validity to their claims of racial inferiority, and Arthur Jensen was literally a star. First, I believe it is not hypocritical, though it does sometimes express erroneous views. The user assumes responsibility for obtaining permission from the copyright holder to publish or distribute this image. He's a psychologist and a professor who's won a bunch of awards. You know, so but that, you know, uh, ultimately, uh, I, I don't think I won anybody over with any of that. He originally thought any difference in intelligence Black and white people were from environmental factors, but after working with Shockley, Jensen started arguing that intelligence was inherited. on September 9, 2018. The Bell Curve was one of The Pioneer Fund's greatest hits for two reasons. Eventually, the popularity of this approach proved to be his downfall, Read all. He was an avowed racist, and pretty public about it. Bill:There is this long tradition of academic racism which Pioneer has continued. He openly endorsed it. The Science History Institute is a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization registered in the U.S. under EIN: 22-2817365. He was also tracking another person who raised red flags for him, someone who was very important to The Pioneer Fund and the neo Nazi movement. Rigo:Yeah. I'm retiring at the end of this year. Rigo:No, not at all. Ah, Barry Mehler. By downloading this file you agree to our access conditions and use restrictions. What's going on with him? the video in question is 14 minute long course introduction that he sent out to his students students earlier this month. The Academy of Television Arts & Sciences Foundation Presents. Lisa:There's no resolution. So they could see it. He uncovers dozens of academics with double lives. Lisa:This is that method one you mentioned, right? Talk about context and urgency, that is what people understood, and that's why they were so upset at what I was doing. Rigo:Yeah. Rigo:Draper's view stayed the same, but he knew enough to realize that the world's views had changed. WebDonahue: With Phil Donahue, Sammy Davis Jr., Dolly Parton, Debby Boone. It's standard journalism practice to reach out to people if you're gonna talk about them. There are no reviews yet. After 29 years, (26 of which in syndication) and nearly 7,000 shows, the final episode aired on September 13, 1996. In 2002, Donahue was ranked 29th on TV Guide magazine's list of the 50 greatest television shows of all-time. [7] ^ Heldenfels, Rich (2019-01-09). The guy on the left is Philippe Rushton. Even though his show was running, Phil also appeared as a contributor I mean, he's, he's this well spoken fellow in a nice suit. And not only survive, but was able to, um, make significant contribution to our understanding of what is actually going on. Bill:He liked to be referred to as Colonel Draper, or the Colonel. Not only was the war not over, but the Nazis were still out to get my son. Lisa:Oh, great. He was inspired by Hans F. K. Gnther, the Third Reich's most prominent race scientist. This is Bill Tucker. Barry:One of the things that Roger Pearson writes about me in his chapter, The Strange Case of Barry Mehler, was that I mail out my stuff in envelopes and I sent them around surreptitiously to all kinds of people, which is, of course, not true. Rigo:So he writes a series of articles in the late 1970s exposing people like Jensen, and then in 1983, he writes a paper called The New Eugenics in which he puts all these race academics into context. Jensen was a renowned psychologist at UC Berkeley. Bill:I figured, okay. They, they didn't know me at all. And I wasn't just calling them Nazis, I was putting out a context to show that this was a fascist endeavor, and that these people were not only Neo Nazis, but they were just old fashioned Nazis, and I think that it was one of the reasons why they hated me so much. Search the history of over 797 billion Unquote. Okay, so how did he get involved? But what Barry Mehler did was to go deeper. MOO32 Rigo:One of Barry Mehler's racist subscriptions was a newspaper called The Thunderbolt. What's it gonna be? Here's $100. It's to get the message out, "You can't go through the Jews because they distort everything.". Phil Donahue's show started off similar to other shows of its day, featuring celebrities and musical acts, but he soon started pushing the envelope by discussing health and social topics previously considered taboo. Jensen on Donahue:The, the white population of the United States score is higher on all kinds of mental tests, not just IQ tests, but every kind of mental test. This season we're going to talk about how racism and white supremacy have been baked into science , and how it's not about individual racists, or it's not about individual bad people, but in this story, there actually are individual bad people funding bad things. Uploaded by Rigo:Yeah, and in fact the Pioneer Fund was very pro-active in finding these race scientists. During the War of 1870, astronomer Jules Janssen risked his life for scientific prestige and French patriotism. If you were less than one quarter Jewish then you could be considered, uh, to be Aryan, which was much more lenient than the one drop rule in the United States. The precursor to all the daytime talk shows that arose during the 1980's and 90's. The more citations, the more funding, the more chances to become tenured. And the thing he had to hide were 17citations that came from a little known journal called the Mankind Quarterly. I mean, he was a Guggenheim Fellow, so this guy's very prestigious, and he's come to Donahue to mouth off theories about biological differences between racial groups. Lisa:So really what The Pioneer Fund is doing is making bad ideas even worse. Is it because the Mankind Quarterly wasn't as known, like you kind of had to, like, know what it was? It's kind of a fitting name because he was born into a wealthy family in 1891. And it's a label they pin on people and then you don't even attend to what the person said. WebBest List of Phil Donahue Shows Tarantos Turf 67 videos 7,939 views Last updated on Jun 4, 2022 Dr Khalid,David Duke, Farrakhan,Rush Limbaugh ,WWF and lots more. They decided that Jensen and Shockley should work together, and throughout that partnership, Jensen's ideas change. Andhe said, I don't understand. Is there anything that can get you cut off? WebPhil Donahue Show Transcripts (Transcripts), 1981-1982 Scope and Contents The Lectures, Speeches, Interviews series primarily consists of material related to the many lectures, Rigo:Yeah. In Silicon Valleys renegade days, a hardheaded Texan chased dreams of a flying car. Barry:It was apparent to me that we were putting on a show, and that I was part of this show, and I was performing a- an important task for the racist platform because they couldn't do it without me. Phil Donahue Show was my favourite! additions to the collection, news, and events. I did the math, and it would be like, something like 160 million in today's money, so when I say his family was wealthy, I meant it, like their ancestral home was a castle in Scotland. Lisa:It works sort of like a bat signal, but instead of attracting superheroes, you uncover white supremacists. Lisa:Ah, the pseudonym journal strikes again. Some say, it's just part of his teaching style. He stumbles his way into Harvard but he has very mediocre grades, and he eventually joins the Army, where he works his way up to the rank of Colonel. Rigo:And since then, Mehler has always operated under the assumption that Nazis never really went away, and as it turns out, he's right. Rigo:What's interesting about eugenics is that it's a dirty word now, but in the 1920s and the early 1930s, they were mainstream ideas, they were in vogue. Their goal was just to have a platform for their ideas to live on. So, what it suggested was that Draper and Pioneer really took the initiative in every case, and reached out to these people, and tried to subsidize them once it realized that these were people who were doing things that would be of interest to Pioneer's agenda. You see, I don't see it in terms of we're making progress, and these people are on the run. Funding wasn't an issue for them, they had Wickliffe Draper. This episode examines a much more overt kind of scientific racism: by telling the story of a racist, wealthy, underground confederacythat has funded nearly every race scientist out there. Now, for better or worse, these are all facts. Barry:It's one thing to, you know You listen to, you hear some kind of quote from William Shockley, but then to see a full page, you know, layout in The Thunderbolt, I mean they were just overtly racist, and William Shockley was their hero. Rigo:To polite society, it looked like professor's doing some perhaps questionable work on the side, but nothing that would warrant negative attention, but most people weren't really reading The Thunderbolt. At the end of World War II chemist Charles Phelps Smyth chased down German nuclear scientists and the equipment they left behind. If you are concerned about the archival material presented here, or want to learn more about our ongoing work, please contact us at research@hagley.org. For example, when I went on the shows, you know, the audience was overwhelmingly on my side. You know? Barry:It still is, but even ore so then. He was in deep. Barry:One day walking on the street, it was a beautiful spring day, and I was daydreaming, and unbeknownst to me, two boys run up behind me, and one of them just punched me in the back, sent me flying, you know, stars, and, you know, and then, then they run on. I had a subscription to all these, you know, Nazi newspapers. Bill:Usually people wanting their research to be funded take the initiative to contact funding agency and say, "Hey, look. Is this a secret conspiracy, or is any of it happening in the open? 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I was right about the cabal in the basement. Lisa:I'm gonna pull my academic hat on for a second and say an impact score is basically something that measures the importance of a given journal, so the higher the impact score, the more influential it is, so you measure that by citations and references, who's used the journal and cited it in their work. McNeil/Leher Report:What has landed the bell curve on the cover of many magazines and Charles Murray on numerous talk shows is that the book also links IQ with race on Mary's bell curve of IQ scores, blacks as a group have an average IQ of 85 whites, 100 Asians, 105. He left most of his money to The Pioneer Fund, much to the chagrin of his close family, and The Pioneer Fund handed out more money two years after his death than in the entire period of 1937 to 1972. What he's just been talking about. WebThe Phil Donahue Show, also known as Donahue, is an American television talk show hosted by Phil Donahue that ran for 26 years on national television. And the whole thing in a way does confirm what Barry Mehler had an inkling of since he was a boy. I'm gonna take a trip to each of these places to see, and I thought some of these trips might be wasted because there would be nothing there. You know, he's a brilliant guy, and he's got these ideas, and after all, he's probably right. Subscribe to our quarterly newsletter for the latest It was the first talk show that included audience participation and ran for 29 years on national TV. There's a cost to negative publicity, and that maybe he's learned that, uh, there is a way of funding the kinds of, um, activities that he's, uh, in favor of without making them very prominent. WebFrom July 2002 to March 2003, Phil briefly hosted a talk show on MSNBC. While he was doing research in Germany in 1978, he discovered that Arthur Jensen had been writing for a new Nazi publication called New Anthropology. Rigo:They named it The Pioneer Fund, but sometimes people called it the Draper Fund because it was all of his money, and they funded whatever he wanted. In fact, he spent his whole career going after people like Rushton, poking holes at their arguments, trying to get people to see them for what they really are, racist scientists. I mean, I annoyed them a lot, and so, the- they're calling up civil rights groups, the people that might know me, and trying to, uh, get information, and they said this in their investigation, you know, uh, for a possible lawsuit. Barry:And Ron said to Issac, "Isaac, there are some people who might want to harm your father. ". He also shares the story of meeting wife Marlo Thomas, how he feels about being parodied on Saturday Night Live, and what he really thinks of Oprah Winfrey. Decades later, it still sounds the same. This is vile and viscous racist anti Semitic stuff, and he finds news there that he doesn't get anywhere else. This becomes very clear when you start looking into the citations of the book. WBBM-TV - 630 N. McClurg Court, Near North Side, Chicago, Illinois, USA. I can't imagine how Barry Mehler feels watching this all explode and then kind of die down and become less controversial again. Boy, they must have hit it off right away. The result: Donahue, the longest running syndicated talk show in television history with its 29 year on-air reign. Their desire is to have a platform to disseminate their ideas, and we would be giving them platform if we allow them to speak to here. on the Internet. Due to a planned power outage on Friday, 1/14, between 8am-1pm PST, some services may be impacted. Over the years, he was trying to show the world that there was a direct line from Nazis in World War II to race scientists like Philippe Rushton, and it all comes back to the funding source. So this is essentially what Arthur Jensen is arguing, you know, why serve breakfast to school kids if it's not going to improve their performance? web pages So I'm gonna go back to that book in a bit. The opposite, in fact. 7 (July, 1991) Cross-Port InnerView, Vol. He seemed to be enamored of his Army experience, and that was his primary identification all his life, especially since he never really had a job of any sort. Be the first one to, The Phil Donahue Show with John Wayne (1976), Advanced embedding details, examples, and help, Terms of Service (last updated 12/31/2014). However, Phil's life changed after meeting Marlo Thomas on his talk show. Hope it will be revived. This was also done to make it seem like there were more race scientists than there actually were. 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